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Ravi Kumar S.,主席,Infosys,采访J. Berger-Sweeney,三一学院

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  • Ravi Kumar S.
    0:14
    Ravi Kumar S.

    大家好,我的名字是Ravi Kumar。我是Infosys的总裁。非常感谢您今天加入我们。我们有一个叫做Trailblazers的非常有趣的系列。该系列侧重于与业界领导者,学术界,政府和我们住在的社区的对话,他对社会产生了巨大影响。我最兴奋的一件事就是我们对学术界所做的事情。今天,我和我在乔安妮三一学院总统,也是我的好朋友。我很荣幸让她在这个谈话系列上。她是一个雄辩的演讲者和一位自由艺术的巨大福音传教士。乔安妮,非常感谢你加入我们。

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    01:03
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    绝对地!谢谢你邀请我。

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    1:05
    Ravi Kumar S.

    我在你的家乡,哈特福德。Since we last met, we’ve made massive progress at our Hartford hub -- we’ve hired more than three hundred people, since we made the announcement, of which a hundred plus work at the hub and one batch is undergoing training, also in the hub. Another batch is training in Trinity College -- our first liberal arts batch! Liberal arts is one of our biggest bets in the digital space; we are creating a national experiment with Trinity College, so we’re very excited about it. I heard the first batch is up and running and that they are very excited about the future.

    你知道,我昨晚正在与数字经济专家进行对话。我们谈到了这个非常有趣的演变,这是在人才空间中发生的。工作区正在从一个模型中移动,您可以将私人人力容量私有能力与您将拥有私人人类能力加上GIG经济;因此,有一个巨大的虚拟人才池,您可以访问......然后,它将在它上面有机器。所以你会从人类到人类加上机器加上演出的经济。现在,随着这一进步,这看起来是真实的,我在我们的节目中看到了这一点,我们也会在我们的客户中看到它 - 机器将提供数据和见解;演出经济将在数字世界中提供所需的规模和敏捷性;人类将会带来创造性方面。因此,创造性的人力将由机器和演出经济扩大。在这方面,自由艺术将在过渡发生的情况下发挥非常大的作用以及人类在工作空​​间中做些什么来发展。 Can you tell us a little bit about this?

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    03:28
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    嗯…首先是我相信——你知道我是一个神经学家通过训练,所以我做研究人工智能与人工智能会发生什么和有什么清楚我总是有一个人类的循环工作,尽可能多的数据,你有你仍然需要解释它,你必须要分析它,而人类永远都是其中的一部分。如果你退一步想想人们在新经济中需要的技能,我认为你必须有数据分析的技能你必须学会如何学习因为你必须不断地重新培训自己。你绝对要需要一些类型的数据的技能和第四个技能,有些人忘记是如何与他人交流,因为在所有的经济体,你谈到你仍然要桥,连接与他人,与其他部门联系,需要技能的人。在我们谈到的所有技能中,我猜数据技能可能是最快获得的。分析技能花许多年的时间获得你是连接不同的事情之前,人们不用于连接所有这些技能都需要一点时间,我认为是数据分析文章,我们可以教可能更迅速。我认为许多数字公司一直专注于数据流,仿佛这是最重要的素质和技能组合,我刚才所描述的,当你谈论文科我们关注所有的其他三个流和我们的一些人也推出数据的技巧。所以我们想要增加的部分是基于所有这三种技能,我认为这是很重要的,我们增加了数字桥梁,这就是你们正在帮助我们做的。因为我们认为自己有分析能力,学习能力,社交能力。

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    06:08
    Ravi Kumar S.

    而且,您知道问题发现是一个更大的技能然后解决问题,如果您刚回到这三件事,我谈到了 - 人类,演出和机器 - 越来越多的机器将接管问题解决,以及问题发现将留给人类。那么你在自由艺术中教授什么,这两种对自由艺术的两种茎流是如何不同的?

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    06:35.
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    正确的。所以我认为文学经验的核心是一个广泛的科目以及一个或两个科目的深度,因此我们有时会将其称为您在特定主题中知道的T - 广泛和深度。So the particular part of the liberal arts education is that you’re learning many different subjects, many different areas, and you’re starting to connect things that have never been connected before - what you’re learning in a course about the civil war in the United States and what you’re learning in a philosophy course and in the liberal arts, you start to connect pieces of those and you start to think about the morality of war, all kinds of subjects that are broadly based and it’s because you’ve taken a combination of courses in the humanities and English and philosophy, the social sciences, economics, or you know political science and also some courses that you take in the sciences like physics chemistry and biology. So you have to take a broad set of courses and what you’re allowing your mind to do a bit is go-between and among subjects and form connections that other people haven’t formed before. So that when you come to a new setting and you see a new question that no one has asked before, you actually have developed a bit of a skill set of connecting things that people haven’t connected before as I say...

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    08:34.
    Ravi Kumar S.

    而且,那种基本问题发现

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    08:36.
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    ......以及您正在学习的分析技能。你没有成为一个政治科学家或哲学家或生物学家的单一课程,但你正在学习他们如何接近问题。Such that when you’re faced with a new question you can step back and think how might different people in different fields approach the question and what you find is very often the question that someone has asked, is not the question you really need to solve… there’s something deeper underneath that is really the cause of the effect that you’re seeing. So even though someone has asked you a question you realize that to solve the problem you need to actually answer other questions. And I think those habits of mind are what we develop in the liberal arts.

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    09:38
    Ravi Kumar S.

    员工的趋势之一,我相信将在数字世界中进行,是世界将从学科方法中迁移到几乎反纪律的方法。我称之为反纪律,因为我们听到了跨职业和跨学科的工作,我几乎认为我们将采取反纪律的方式来看待更高的研究......而且自由艺术适合这么好。这就是为什么我们正在阅读自由艺术的大事,并认为未来需要大量的我们的才华,将来自自由艺术。

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    10:18
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    正是因为正如我们所说的我们可以教授一些数据分析技巧一旦你已经掌握了这些更广泛的分析技巧和一些社交技巧。另一件我认为特别重要的事是我们在文科中所做的是我们既关注课堂上发生的事也关注课堂外发生的事。一些正在发生的事情是一个人决定我想开始一个新的俱乐部,俱乐部在我们的机构有史以来没有人对印度——你知道我只是以一个随机例——创建你想要做什么,领导角色,试图找出如何形成一个俱乐部,你需要什么,谁是利益相关者,所有这些学习都发生在课堂之外。如果你把不可思议的技能,你在做发展教室内的这种领导,甚至你教室外的学习运动技能你意识到一点有什么特别的文科,一个额外的元素是你学习文科教育如何成为一位参与世界事务的公民。

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    11:51
    Ravi Kumar S.

    您是否区分了茎教育和您拥有的自由艺术以及非茎教育,或者它们非常相似?

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    12:00
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    我想有很多相似之处,记住我如何描述你的描述,你们知道自由艺术是一个伟大的宽度。The depth of the scientist or the mathematician is a little different from the depth that the person in an English major or a political science major has but that breadth is what’s in common and in some ways you might think of it as the breadth that holds all of those depths together.

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    12:35
    Ravi Kumar S.

    事实上,我们在数据科学,行业垂直域和设计结合创建了多个流。我们相信你谈到的是我们对我们着迷的东西。但是,我认为某个点(t)将成为'z'。

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    12:54
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    现在我喜欢那样......我会想到它。

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    12:57
    Ravi Kumar S.

    在某些时候,它会变得如此反思......

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    13:00
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    ...确切地。但是我想和你分享的另一件事 - 我说我是一个科学家,我是神经科学家。

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    13:08
    Ravi Kumar S.

    我知道你有专利。

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    13:11
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    我做。我有一个专利用于世界上第二大阿尔茨海默氏药物,我在职业生涯中非常幸运。但作为一个科学家,我喜欢实验,我非常欣赏Infosys,以及你想做的是,如果我们所说的话,证明是有意义的实验。我的意思是我们都可以说,自由艺术是数字技术为未来的职业技术的伟大训练领域,但你愿意实际做实验来证明这是真的。亚博双赢棋牌这就是我认为对我们的伙伴关系如此独特。我们愿意真的说,这是我们认为会发生的事情,有很多文学和很多关于它的谈话和叙述,但我们实际上要做实验证明它。

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    14:10
    Ravi Kumar S.

    绝对乔安妮!事实上,第一个批次为我们和我们的伙伴关系提供了一个很好的学习机会。在可预见的未来,我们将几乎每月都有批次。我们正在招聘美国,然后让他们到哈特福德和三一学院。我们相信这可以重新定义最广泛的艺术对数字时代意味着什么。你知道,世界上,从曾经是一条直线研究的专业工作,到一个终身学习和持续重塑的连续性几乎是数字时代的美德。当我们转入终身学习者时,正在学到的,即将成为一个真正的美德,绝对必要在数字时代保持相关。和文科是基础的基础。您创建了一个可读性索引,正如我所说的那样(我不知道是在字典中的可读性),但学习性指数是我们想要寻找的是我们雇用的,特别是我们正在招聘的学校毕业。你想告诉我们一些关于我们如何成为学习者的生活。 This, to me, is the most important virtue in this transition.

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    15:39
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    你绝对是对的,并感谢你让我有机会谈谈你如何学习学习,因为我们都了解在一生中的进步方面的重要性。而且如果你看,例如在线学习,当人们已经知道如何学习时,它最为成功。这就是为什么在线学习通常如此成功,因为他们已经学会了如何学习,以及他们正在做的事情正在开发一项新技能,因为他们了解如何学习。所以我会告诉你一点关于我认为在学习如何学习时至关重要。I think it’s really important to do a wide variety of subjects, to see what you do well, what you don’t do well, and I think it’s particularly important to reflect on how you learn so when you go to a liberal arts college for four years, you’re taking many different subjects, some of them you’re going to be better at than others, and in this process of taking different subjects in different fields, you’re learning a little bit about yourself and how you learn and you’re reflecting on how you carry that skillset into a different arena, and you know a different class let’s say for example. And I think that that process of taking once again different courses in different subject areas, you’re learning differ rent things about your own personal learning style, and you’re reflecting on them so that by the time you get to the end of the four-year process... let’s say for example, you understand so much better how you learn what’s necessary. Do I learn better by seeing visuals? Do I learn better by having a conversation with you? And you’re doing this with a group of peers and other people who are pushing you and pressing you, because that’s really when you determine the limits of your own learning when other people are pushing you, asking you questions, really making you think and reflect… so that process comes with time. that’s not something you learn in a single class in a couple of weeks. Whereas you can think some of the digital skills that you want to offer people you probably can learn in a couple of weeks, but these other kinds of analytical skills -- learning how to learn, it takes some time to develop… so I’m gonna say time is a factor. But I’m also going to speak as a neuroscientist a little bit about a concept that I call critical periods. And that is your brain is primed to learn certain kinds of things at certain different stages…you probably have heard people say if you learn to speak a language between the age of 0 to 5 you’ll probably speak it like a native, whereas as you get older the critical period has moved on and you’ll still be able to learn a language but not with the same kind of fluidity.

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    19:25
    Ravi Kumar S.

    ......所以它......只是在这个主题上发球......它是否在数字时代有意义,我们都将成为一部分,在K-12中提前创造一个终身学习的文化?

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
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    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    I think K through 12 is important for certain developmental skills, we all know that as a basic foundation, but they’re also a group of higher-level analytical skills that are probably most important to learn in an area, I would say in age between 16 and 25, so there’s certain things that are important to learn in the K through 12 age, but when you talk about higher-level, sophisticated, analytical training, where you’re connecting disparate things some of that needs to come when you’re a little bit older and you have different kinds of basic skills. And that’s why I think so many people go to college in this time period between about 16 and 25 because that is a prime time when your brain is developing these very sophisticated analytical skills. Once again it doesn’t mean you can’t learn them outside of that range but your brain is primed in those late teenage years and early 20 years for this type of training, so we should take advantage of that and when you get that basic skill set you can kind of retrain and retrain and retrain at different periods in your life, so I think it’s a combination as you’re saying of some basic fundamental skills but I do think there’s a critical window that time period from about as I said 15 - 25 16 to 25 in which those higher- level analytical skills, your brain is primed to make those kinds of neural connections, and I think that’s an important time period too.

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    21:44
    Ravi Kumar S.

    成为一个终身学习者可能比不识的人,这可能比不用手......我想知道你是否有学习才能找到的课程?

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    21:55
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    你必须,因为作为一个神经科学家,我们发现的是未经学习是必不可少的,因为你不能把它保留在那里。There are some things you have to decide are less important less of a priority and actually on unlearn them so you you’re being a brilliant neuroscientist that what we discovered is that unlearning is every bit as important as learning and it’s that ability to go back and forth between learning and unlearning that’s critical and once again your brain is very much primed to do those kinds of things in this time period that I spoke to you about, and once you learn once you develop the patterns of being able to do it, it’s something that you will be able to retain and use your entire lifetime.

  • Ravi Kumar S.
    22:53
    Ravi Kumar S.

    谢谢你,乔安妮,这非常非常富有洞察力。在这次谈话中,我个人学到了很多东西。随着我们所拥有的每一个互动,我都会对我们可以做些多少来解决,以建立未来的人才池和未来的能力。我认为我们的伙伴关系在商店里有一些非常令人兴奋的时期。我对第一批的学习也非常兴奋,我们如何将这些了解这些学习应用于未来的批次,并为文科创建国家实验。感谢您的时间!

  • Joanne Berger-Sweeney
    23:31
    Joanne Berger-Sweeney

    哦,绝对,它总是一种乐趣。